Help with RLU

[rpgKnight]

I ran into an RPGiii program that uses an RLU print file and I need to change it. I found an IBM PDF with details about RLU but it is basically useless and difficult to understand. I've wasted a few hours trying to just add text to this print file with no luck. I am about to chuck this program and write something from scratch.

Can anyone point me to an RLU cheat sheet?

Thanks in advance...

[tomholden]

Re: Help with RLU

ick...i never use RLU. you can edit the source using SEU and IMO it's easy and less "clunky" than RLU

[kitvb1]

Re: Help with RLU

ick...i never use RLU. you can edit the source using SEU and IMO it's easy and less "clunky" than RLU

Tom,
you wrote the same elsewhere this week but you used stronger words. I liked the other post better.
... and I couldn't agree with you more. To use the polite English terminology... RLU is shite!

[jamief]

Re: Help with RLU

I use that Shite all the time.....
What specifically are you doing?

its simple to add fields just put x's (or whatever )

then to the right over the seq numbers type DF (define field) and
KAPOW a field appears... DC = define contant.
if you type this $9,999,999.99 then DF it will create
the edit work for you.

Place cursor on field then F23 to get to attributes here you can
highlight / change cpi, change font, create edit word.....blah blah blah

F18 then F10 to rename record format of field
(cursor must be on the same)

put cursor on field use F13 to highlight filed and F14/F15 to copy or move.
use I to insert lines like old seu
then CLR = create record format
CLC = continuation line..

SP will space the fields equally across the width of the printfile
very useful if you ask me...

whats this RDi thing I keep hearing about

Happy friday all

[tomholden]

Re: Help with RLU

RDi is that "high quality" dumbed down version of WDSC that's priced out of my company's price range

[jamief]

Re: Help with RLU

Oh yea thats right...Thanks Tom I had forgotten

[rpgKnight]

Re: Help with RLU

I use that Shite all the time.....
What specifically are you doing?

its simple to add fields just put x's (or whatever )

then to the right over the seq numbers type DF (define field) and
KAPOW a field appears... DC = define contant.
if you type this $9,999,999.99 then DF it will create
the edit work for you.

Place cursor on field then F23 to get to attributes here you can
highlight / change cpi, change font, create edit word.....blah blah blah

F18 then F10 to rename record format of field
(cursor must be on the same)

put cursor on field use F13 to highlight filed and F14/F15 to copy or move.
use I to insert lines like old seu
then CLR = create record format
CLC = continuation line..

SP will space the fields equally across the width of the printfile
very useful if you ask me...

whats this RDi thing I keep hearing about

Happy friday all

I am trying to add text to the report. That's it. I've been working on just editing the source with better results but still have trouble with it. I add text and then get funky characters pop up or they don't show at all.

It is shite!

I haven't even got to the point of editing the RPG, yet. That may be an entirely different experience.

[rpgKnight]

Re: Help with RLU

I use that Shite all the time.....
What specifically are you doing?

its simple to add fields just put x's (or whatever )

then to the right over the seq numbers type DF (define field) and
KAPOW a field appears... DC = define contant.
if you type this $9,999,999.99 then DF it will create
the edit work for you.

Place cursor on field then F23 to get to attributes here you can
highlight / change cpi, change font, create edit word.....blah blah blah

F18 then F10 to rename record format of field
(cursor must be on the same)

put cursor on field use F13 to highlight filed and F14/F15 to copy or move.
use I to insert lines like old seu
then CLR = create record format
CLC = continuation line..

SP will space the fields equally across the width of the printfile
very useful if you ask me...

whats this RDi thing I keep hearing about

Happy friday all

This is useless. I go to the sequence number, enter DF and KAPOW, I get this:

DF created 0 fields in record format HEAD

I've already deleted and recreated the source several times. What a piece...

[tomholden]

Re: Help with RLU

heh heh i told you to use SEU

[jamief]

Re: Help with RLU

you have to insert a line after head..

it defaults to a "."

you then change that line to continuation line

CLC

then add the text on that line

this is my text

then

DC

(Define constant)

then all that KAPOW shite happens

[SteveL]

Re: Help with RLU

RLU - short for really lousy utility and good for frustration.

Use SEU

[JonBoy]

Re: Help with RLU

RLU - short for really lousy utility and good for frustration.

Use SEU

If you've got the CDs handy install CODE from the WDSC extra CDs. Any WDSC version 6.0 or later is pretty solid (they didn't change CODE at 7.0) and unlike RDi it can actually edit print files!

Takes a bit of getting used to but easier than RLU - you just have to watch out for which is the active record so you don't add stuff to the wrong place.

Problem with SEU is if you are not familiar with DDS then it doesn't matter how easy the editor is - that's the least of your problems.

I'm no RLU fan - but many people are and it is fine if you take a few minutes to learn it - but don't just leap in and expect it to be intuitive.

[rpgKnight]

Re: Help with RLU

Oh man, RLU has to be IBM's darkest creation. I spent several days trying to get RLU to work and then I thought I made some progress but then RLU butchered up some data so I went back and modified via SEU which worked and then I looked at it through RLU and it looked fine.

Then...I looked at it through RLU once more, saved it and RLU butchered it up again. RLU decided to remove a bunch of fields and now I've got to work to rework it again.

Oh, man, if I didn't hate RLU before, I hate it now.

Now, I am at the point where I make a change and save an archive of it with the change and proceed. This file I am changing is large and having to redo everything from scratch whenever RLU butchers it up is very, very time consuming. I'm already spending my Friday off having to work on this piece of ......

[tomholden]

Re: Help with RLU

Oh man, RLU has to be IBM's darkest creation. I spent several days trying to get RLU to work and then I thought I made some progress but then RLU butchered up some data so I went back and modified via SEU which worked and then I looked at it through RLU and it looked fine.

Then...I looked at it through RLU once more, saved it and RLU butchered it up again. RLU decided to remove a bunch of fields and now I've got to work to rework it again.

Oh, man, if I didn't hate RLU before, I hate it now.

Now, I am at the point where I make a change and save an archive of it with the change and proceed. This file I am changing is large and having to redo everything from scratch whenever RLU butchers it up is very, very time consuming. I'm already spending my Friday off having to work on this piece of ......

and yet again...RLU sucks and SEU ftw!!!

[jamief]

Re: Help with RLU

Okay I use RLU EVERY time I write a report.
I have never had it magically delete any of my data...

Like any tool there is a learning curve, if your willing to
stick with it RLU will save you HUGE amounts of time
creating/modifying printfiles.

Just because its not very well documented or easy
to learn doesnt mean it sucks.

Someday Ill have to do a tutorial..